ship, you know, the mother ship of all news. now fox news dominates and it's not even close. msnbc is a joke, man. it's unbelievable. 12%. and cnn, i think people are flipping by it. they sometimes say yeah, i watch something on cnn. they are not there. the loyal audience is here. the second thing that stands out is that fox has an older audience. so u while a lot of young people really aren't watching the news, it's the seniors who pay attention and care about their likely voters as well. and one final point, bill, i think when you are talking about barack obama running against ghost of ronald reagan you told brit, you know, i think you said that because there is nobody currently listed among the republicans who can give him any shot. people saying they are going to vote against obama, not one of them, mike huckabee, who is also a fox person comes close but is he not really close. >> bill: the campaign hasn't begun yet. there is nobody out there saying this is what i would do.